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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Travace" data-source="post: 137256" data-attributes="member: 111">i get it and love both.. i love to ride so i can see beautiful stuff. OW isnt really that tho. well it is to me cause i think the badlands are awesome and i enjoy just sitting and taking in the views myself.  That is why you have designated stay on the trail places like LPNF or Pine Valley near me.  all have regulations.  Even the sand Dunes at Glamis have regulations and area's you cant ride to save the environment.  OW is and has been what it is for a long time.  they even made everything easier to get to. put bathrooms out there.... spent a lot of money on signs(timoyz lol)....  it brings family's together and people into an area that would never really go. to take it away from us now is dumb.</blockquote>