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<blockquote data-quote="cleonard" data-source="post: 14924" data-attributes="member: 21">Everybody is going to be pointing fingers at everyone else.&nbsp; It's how we deal with things like this here in the US of A.&nbsp; I'm pretty much with you on the BLM thing.&nbsp; How exactly is the BLM supposed to police and close areas.&nbsp; That is just ridiculous.&nbsp; The BLM is not in the race promoting business.&nbsp; Heck it's an open riding area for people like the members here on DBA.&nbsp; It is not an area reserved for racing.&nbsp; That is something that is lost on the race people.&nbsp; It's all the me, me, me thing we have all too much of.&nbsp; I guess the scale with eight dead that will shape the aftermath.&nbsp; There have been deaths before.&nbsp; I think last year a play rider was killed by a 4 truck or buggy during a race at Stoddard.&nbsp; That is about the same situation.&nbsp; The racing community seemed to me to place the blame on the person who was killed.&nbsp; I check when planning a ride to see if there will be a race at the chosen riding area.&nbsp; If it's a bike race I will usually go.&nbsp; If it's a truck/buggy race I choose another destination.&nbsp; The way I like to ride crossing the race course will happen many times.&nbsp; In the open areas safety is the responsibility of all users.&nbsp; I don't care if you are racing at speed or just following a child near camp at 10mph.&nbsp; I've watched racers and in my experience they never look for cross traffic.&nbsp; That kind of behavior is fine on a MX track, but not in an open riding area.&nbsp; I have no idea how one could control the spectators.&nbsp; The course is a many tens on mile trace across the open desert.&nbsp; Sure you could control it in places like the rockpile, but how could you do that for the entire distance?&nbsp; Those people who want to be close will just go somewhere else.This whole situation just sucks.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="cleonard, post: 14924, member: 21"] Everybody is going to be pointing fingers at everyone else. It's how we deal with things like this here in the US of A. I'm pretty much with you on the BLM thing. How exactly is the BLM supposed to police and close areas. That is just ridiculous. The BLM is not in the race promoting business. Heck it's an open riding area for people like the members here on DBA. It is not an area reserved for racing. That is something that is lost on the race people. It's all the me, me, me thing we have all too much of. I guess the scale with eight dead that will shape the aftermath. There have been deaths before. I think last year a play rider was killed by a 4 truck or buggy during a race at Stoddard. That is about the same situation. The racing community seemed to me to place the blame on the person who was killed. I check when planning a ride to see if there will be a race at the chosen riding area. If it's a bike race I will usually go. If it's a truck/buggy race I choose another destination. The way I like to ride crossing the race course will happen many times. In the open areas safety is the responsibility of all users. I don't care if you are racing at speed or just following a child near camp at 10mph. I've watched racers and in my experience they never look for cross traffic. That kind of behavior is fine on a MX track, but not in an open riding area. I have no idea how one could control the spectators. The course is a many tens on mile trace across the open desert. Sure you could control it in places like the rockpile, but how could you do that for the entire distance? Those people who want to be close will just go somewhere else. This whole situation just sucks. [/QUOTE]

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