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I'm glad I have a kick starter on my bike. Used it twice. Once when my stock cheap battery died at LPNF ride with weather geek, and once on New Years weekend ride when it was 20 degrees outside and snowing and my lithium ion Shorai did not like that initial cold start. When it comes to kick starters I would rather have it and not need it then need and not have it. Throw one on there Rez!