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Message: <blockquote data-quote="cleonard" data-source="post: 58218" data-attributes="member: 21">Yea I know those rocks at the 1:20 point real well.  I've found that going the other direction on Snowy is easier.  Going down that rock garden is easier than up.  No matter what it takes me a long time.  I stop and rest a few times on the decent in and the climb out of the Piru gorge no matter the direction.  Its not only me that needs a rest.  My bike gets real hot and if you are not careful a fried clutch is a real possibility on that trail.  On about half of the times I've ridden that trail there is an abandoned bike with a fried clutch at the Piru creek crossing at the bottom of that gorge..Rivet are you looking for a spot in LPNF or just anywhere in Cal/norcal/socal?  Having water nearby can be tough in the southern part of the state, but there are places.</blockquote>