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<blockquote data-quote="ossagp" data-source="post: 162513" data-attributes="member: 1650">I change more for water than anything else.&nbsp; Jim Creek stuff lol. (two stroke will understand that).&nbsp;&nbsp; The &quot;waterfall&quot; out at sutton used to be the reason I changed a lot too.For my two strokes I use ATF.&nbsp;&nbsp; I have oil tested every so often,&nbsp; never have had any that wasn't under the half life so to speak.&nbsp; For a two stroke trans,&nbsp; the syns' just didnt appeal to me.&nbsp; I feel that if I am getting the oil hot enough to break down a conventional oil,&nbsp; then I have some problems that synthetic isn't going to cure,&nbsp; and bigger ones that oil will bring on.&nbsp; A four stroke with a cam way up in the head and a long ways away from an oil pump is a different story.&nbsp; I like the synthetics more there since they get there faster when cold,&nbsp; and the head has some very extreme temps that don't exist in a healthy transmission that is separate,&nbsp; ala honda and two strokes.&nbsp; Oils are a feel good thing though.&nbsp; Doing what feels good is always attractive <img src="https://www.dirtbikeaddicts.com/static/images/smilies/banana.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":banana:" title="Banana&nbsp; &nbsp; :banana:" data-shortname=":banana:" />(that has to be the most unattractive icon).Palmer,&nbsp; I bet your rekluse will like the honda oil just fine.&nbsp; Wet clutches seem to love it if it is above 30 F.&nbsp; Any lower and you may want to give it a little bit of extra warm up.&nbsp;&nbsp; I am really waiting to hear how you like the Rekluse,&nbsp; since I have little experience with them to start with,&nbsp; and none first hand with the latest model like you got.&nbsp;&nbsp; I am sure I want one,&nbsp; based on using the Zstart Pro I put in my son's cr250.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ossagp, post: 162513, member: 1650"] I change more for water than anything else. Jim Creek stuff lol. (two stroke will understand that). The "waterfall" out at sutton used to be the reason I changed a lot too. For my two strokes I use ATF. I have oil tested every so often, never have had any that wasn't under the half life so to speak. For a two stroke trans, the syns' just didnt appeal to me. I feel that if I am getting the oil hot enough to break down a conventional oil, then I have some problems that synthetic isn't going to cure, and bigger ones that oil will bring on. A four stroke with a cam way up in the head and a long ways away from an oil pump is a different story. I like the synthetics more there since they get there faster when cold, and the head has some very extreme temps that don't exist in a healthy transmission that is separate, ala honda and two strokes. Oils are a feel good thing though. Doing what feels good is always attractive :banana:(that has to be the most unattractive icon). Palmer, I bet your rekluse will like the honda oil just fine. Wet clutches seem to love it if it is above 30 F. Any lower and you may want to give it a little bit of extra warm up. I am really waiting to hear how you like the Rekluse, since I have little experience with them to start with, and none first hand with the latest model like you got. I am sure I want one, based on using the Zstart Pro I put in my son's cr250. [/QUOTE]

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