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When I say circles I am speaking of handling as well and my car sticks like glue, better than a 69 Road Runner could do with the 383 or 440. But, I do know what you mean and I have to agree with you. I still get much better gas mileage too.     :smirk:    It is kind of like the new Vettes and CTS V cars, they have shit loads of horsepower but they all sound like a sewing machine. Technology at work.


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