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You guys have ugly knees.    I hope you get through this one with no problems. I have wasted my knee before by doing the old jam and twist trick and to this day I really am careful to not do something to it again because it does not take much to injure it. Also, my problem is that I am no spring chicken anymore and I can not afford to injure it as it takes longer for us old guys to heal up. Take it easy and heal properly.