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<blockquote data-quote="msgtretired" data-source="post: 15347" data-attributes="member: 50">depends on the group, amount of breaks, and such.&nbsp; but we are shooting for an early afternoon for Sunday and mid afternoon on Saturday.&nbsp; both days, we meet 8am at Edison stagin areaSaturday is the slightly more tech and longer ride.&nbsp; Depending on the group, we hope to add a Piru creek, small and big lockwood climbs, and possibly arrastra to the normal stuff.&nbsp; Arrastra is a tough cookie if we go up, not so bad going down. most likely we will take it going down to give a taste of it.&nbsp; possibly a 55-60 mile loop.&nbsp; depending on the breaks and speed, could finish mid afternoon.&nbsp; and if you still want to ride, I could show you a couple of Gems in the OHV, such as the Buttcrack trail.Sunday is slated as a mellow ride (East Frazier, across top to lookout, down whata, tejon, long dave, to the creek. depending on the time and how everyone feels, we could either go back west frazier to whata to tejon, or long dave to tejon, or get a taste of the small lockwood pass to yellowjacket and back.).. maybe 40 mile loop, if we add yellowjacket, 55.&nbsp; depending on the breaks and such, possibly finish early afternoon.&nbsp; when we get to the creek. we assess the water situation, how everyone feels, and decide the direction there. and for those who didn't get enough riding in, we could run abit in the OHV.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="msgtretired, post: 15347, member: 50"] depends on the group, amount of breaks, and such. but we are shooting for an early afternoon for Sunday and mid afternoon on Saturday. both days, we meet 8am at Edison stagin area Saturday is the slightly more tech and longer ride. Depending on the group, we hope to add a Piru creek, small and big lockwood climbs, and possibly arrastra to the normal stuff. Arrastra is a tough cookie if we go up, not so bad going down. most likely we will take it going down to give a taste of it. possibly a 55-60 mile loop. depending on the breaks and speed, could finish mid afternoon. and if you still want to ride, I could show you a couple of Gems in the OHV, such as the Buttcrack trail. Sunday is slated as a mellow ride (East Frazier, across top to lookout, down whata, tejon, long dave, to the creek. depending on the time and how everyone feels, we could either go back west frazier to whata to tejon, or long dave to tejon, or get a taste of the small lockwood pass to yellowjacket and back.).. maybe 40 mile loop, if we add yellowjacket, 55. depending on the breaks and such, possibly finish early afternoon. when we get to the creek. we assess the water situation, how everyone feels, and decide the direction there. and for those who didn't get enough riding in, we could run abit in the OHV. [/QUOTE]

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