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Message: <blockquote data-quote="cleonard" data-source="post: 161363" data-attributes="member: 21">From what I remember both Tula and Wolf are actually manufactured in the Ukraine.  I have a feeling that they might want to be stocking up for themselves so we may see a bit of a drought.  Now I think most of the surplus rifles do come from Russia.  One thing that makes the military surplus rifles desirable is the low cost ammo.  Lose that and I don't think that I need one of those rifles.  I picked up my first big rifle in the late 80's.  It was an after war production Yugo 8mm Mauser.  I was buying 1000 round lots between 8 and 10 cents a round.  I plan on getting one of those Lee kits this year.  It will do well for the bolt action rifles.  You just don't shoot the volume of ammo that you can put through a semi auto hand gun or rifle.</blockquote>