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Message: <blockquote data-quote="cleonard" data-source="post: 24687" data-attributes="member: 21">I think that any of the big mfgs like Mossberg, Remmington, etc make fine shotguns.   I'm thinking that a pump might be actually better than a semi auto because of that unmistakable sound from chambering a round.  It will make a lot of bad guys go away without a shot needing to be fired.I don't think a pistol grip is really the best.  It's hard to hit anything and the recoil from a 12 ga is hard on your wrist.  I would get at least a folding stock with a pistol grip.You can get a combo as well.  I know that Mossberg sells a combo that has a 18 1/2 and a 28 inch barrels.</blockquote>