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<blockquote data-quote="ossagp" data-source="post: 209227" data-attributes="member: 1650">one it is a stone.&nbsp; weight wasnt the reason.&nbsp;&nbsp; 5 speed vs six,&nbsp; made for a step backwards.&nbsp;&nbsp; as a pure&nbsp; motocross race bike the 5 speed works,&nbsp; as a trail bike or cross country it sucks.&nbsp; did i mention it sucks for cross country or trail, and i may have left out it sucks for cross country or trail.&nbsp; the frame was way over stiff for a 250&nbsp; doubly so for a 125.&nbsp; This made the ones i was around the most vibration prone 125's I ever touched.&nbsp;&nbsp; I was very much into Hondas.&nbsp; Still am,&nbsp; but that one just plain sucked when they had such good rigs before that.&nbsp; There is nothing on it desireable to sell other than the wheels.&nbsp;&nbsp; it can become a six speed easily enough,&nbsp; but you still have the fame issue.&nbsp; if anything is cheap enough it can become a good deal.&nbsp; I would be so hard pressed to offer ANYTHING,&nbsp; but 5-600 if it really is low time would make it at least interesting.&nbsp; But I think there are far better ways to spend the money.&nbsp;&nbsp; Like your guitar,&nbsp;&nbsp; anyone could learn to ride on anything with two wheels,&nbsp; but I doubt you are any better on the strings than you would have been had you started on something decent,&nbsp; so to pay good money just so you figure your kid might appreciate a better bike later on is kind of a bass akwards way to teach the lesson to me.&nbsp; I made my son learn momentum off the yamaha counter part to your xr200 so maybe that is a step to consider since you already have it, like I did my xt200.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ossagp, post: 209227, member: 1650"] one it is a stone. weight wasnt the reason. 5 speed vs six, made for a step backwards. as a pure motocross race bike the 5 speed works, as a trail bike or cross country it sucks. did i mention it sucks for cross country or trail, and i may have left out it sucks for cross country or trail. the frame was way over stiff for a 250 doubly so for a 125. This made the ones i was around the most vibration prone 125's I ever touched. I was very much into Hondas. Still am, but that one just plain sucked when they had such good rigs before that. There is nothing on it desireable to sell other than the wheels. it can become a six speed easily enough, but you still have the fame issue. if anything is cheap enough it can become a good deal. I would be so hard pressed to offer ANYTHING, but 5-600 if it really is low time would make it at least interesting. But I think there are far better ways to spend the money. Like your guitar, anyone could learn to ride on anything with two wheels, but I doubt you are any better on the strings than you would have been had you started on something decent, so to pay good money just so you figure your kid might appreciate a better bike later on is kind of a bass akwards way to teach the lesson to me. I made my son learn momentum off the yamaha counter part to your xr200 so maybe that is a step to consider since you already have it, like I did my xt200. [/QUOTE]

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