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I should have specified on the bike you use it for as well. It's obvious that those who have four strokes use different products. As far as Lucas products go well, I don't think they are what they try to be. I have tried their product in my vehicle's with no difference in performance what so ever. Like the fuel cleaner and or octange boosters. I have had better luck with company's like Gumout or STP. So I guess what I am trying to say is If I don't feel or see any difference in my Vehicle with Lucas Products. I will not put them in my Bike. Just like Harley's you pay for the name. They have the money to premote their product so everyone beleives in what they are selling.