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<blockquote data-quote="ossi" data-source="post: 7698" data-attributes="member: 33">Thats a concept in itself and you have opened another small can of piss and vinegar.I rode desert when I was young, I feel I was fairly fast.&nbsp; I rode a open class bike from 15 on.I to could not turn more the 45 degrees for the life of me.&nbsp; I could hang on and hit bumps at speed at serious speed.I had balls and thats about it. Big Balls I will add.Now I ride woods, real trails and technical elevation changes.&nbsp; Am I faster? No way.Am I better rider considering the years apart and the age difference?&nbsp; Hell yes.Watch the psychos on You Tube in Europe and ask if the desert made them fast?<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oywg57u4H1o" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oywg57u4H1o</a>Check out second 53 for a great laugh.David Knight had scant chance of learning his speed in the desert.Malcolm Smith?&nbsp; Bob Hannah? These were desert guys. Two different types of racers.&nbsp; Travis is a East Coast guy.&nbsp; What would we classify him as?The real answer is skill.&nbsp; How you came across the skill is actually meaningless.I find tight as trails with exposed roots and rock with a touch snow and mudthe funniest most challenging trails ever,&nbsp; some of my biggest sources of riding envy come from the lush green trail pics of the far Pacific Northwest.and I do like the desert too.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ossi, post: 7698, member: 33"] Thats a concept in itself and you have opened another small can of piss and vinegar. I rode desert when I was young, I feel I was fairly fast. I rode a open class bike from 15 on. I to could not turn more the 45 degrees for the life of me. I could hang on and hit bumps at speed at serious speed. I had balls and thats about it. Big Balls I will add. Now I ride woods, real trails and technical elevation changes. Am I faster? No way. Am I better rider considering the years apart and the age difference? Hell yes. Watch the psychos on You Tube in Europe and ask if the desert made them fast? [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oywg57u4H1o[/url] Check out second 53 for a great laugh. David Knight had scant chance of learning his speed in the desert. Malcolm Smith? Bob Hannah? These were desert guys. Two different types of racers. Travis is a East Coast guy. What would we classify him as? The real answer is skill. How you came across the skill is actually meaningless. I find tight as trails with exposed roots and rock with a touch snow and mud the funniest most challenging trails ever, some of my biggest sources of riding envy come from the lush green trail pics of the far Pacific Northwest. and I do like the desert too. [/QUOTE]

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